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yesai
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2010/08/14 17:42
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Delio
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2010/08/16 01:29
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Nauril
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2010/08/17 10:16
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delio
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2010/08/08 03:50
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yesai
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2010/08/10 12:54
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delio
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2010/08/13 02:09
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Lauren
|
2010/08/12 16:25
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warrior_priest
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2010/07/28 09:44
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yesai
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2010/07/30 13:00
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warrior_priest
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2010/07/30 23:15
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Nauril
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2010/08/01 19:21
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yesai
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2010/08/02 18:34
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Nhashta
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2010/08/01 19:42
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yesai
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2010/08/02 18:50
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Nhashta
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2010/07/26 13:16
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yesai
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2010/07/30 13:14
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Yellow
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2009/10/22 09:20
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delio
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2009/10/24 03:53
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Nauril Ahka
|
2009/10/24 13:37
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delio
|
2009/10/26 00:45
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Nauril Ahka
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2009/10/26 22:22
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Nauril Ahka
|
2009/10/26 22:24
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warrior_priest
|
2010/07/27 11:09
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warrior_priest
|
2010/07/28 09:36
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Ubermensch
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2010/07/22 16:59
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Yellow
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2010/07/23 15:14
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Nhashta
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2010/07/19 08:37
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Nauril
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2010/07/22 17:30
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Nhashta
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2010/07/22 18:19
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Nhashta
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2010/07/16 08:07
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yesai
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2010/07/16 12:03
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Nhashta
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2010/07/18 08:38
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yesai
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2010/07/16 12:15
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yesai
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2010/07/12 12:53
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yesai
|
2010/07/12 12:45
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biasedperfection
|
2010/06/21 23:02
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yesai
|
2010/06/22 12:54
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Vav
|
2010/04/27 17:17
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yesai
|
2010/04/28 20:18
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Vav
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2010/06/15 16:55
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yesai
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2010/06/16 15:42
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yesai
|
2010/04/29 14:08
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Vav
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2010/06/10 13:40
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yesai
|
2010/06/13 20:18
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yesai
|
2010/06/15 11:08
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RaSol
|
2010/06/08 11:10
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yesai
|
2010/06/09 12:34
|
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RaSol
|
2010/06/10 12:53
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biasedperfection
|
2010/05/23 23:55
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yesai
|
2010/05/24 12:00
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yesai
|
2010/05/24 12:01
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yesai
|
2010/05/24 12:50
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Vav
|
2010/05/13 18:27
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yesai
|
2010/05/18 10:04
|
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Nauril
|
2010/05/04 00:43
|
| |
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Vav
|
2010/05/05 01:27
|
| |
|
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biasedperfection
|
2010/04/23 01:18
|
| |
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yesai
|
2010/04/26 16:34
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| |
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yesai
|
2010/04/18 09:39
|
| |
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Nauril
|
2010/04/05 15:27
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| |
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yesai
|
2010/04/10 17:25
|
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UINSEANN
|
2010/04/10 20:11
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yesai
|
2010/04/12 10:25
|
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UINSEANN
|
2010/04/05 19:10
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yesai
|
2010/04/06 13:30
|
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UINSEANN
|
2010/04/07 20:22
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yesai
|
2010/03/27 15:31
|
| |
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Nauril
|
2010/03/27 23:11
|
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UINSEANN
|
2010/04/04 06:12
|
| |
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yesai
|
2010/04/04 11:21
|
| |
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|
yesai
|
2010/03/27 13:57
|
| |
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|
|
2010/03/27 01:51
|
| |
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biasedperfection
|
2010/03/22 02:40
|
| |
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|
yesai
|
2010/03/22 15:48
|
| |
|
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|
yesai
|
2010/03/18 12:16
|
| |
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Vav
|
2010/03/15 11:50
|
| |
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Yellow
|
2010/03/15 22:03
|
| |
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yesai
|
2010/03/16 12:46
|
| |
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Naurel
|
2010/03/15 23:01
|
| |
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yesai
|
2010/03/16 00:38
|
| |
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Naurel
|
2010/03/06 12:27
|
| |
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Vav
|
2010/03/05 17:08
|
| |
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Ubermensch
|
2010/03/06 09:54
|
| |
|
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Naurel
|
2010/02/27 14:21
|
| |
|
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yesai
|
2010/02/28 13:04
|
| |
|
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|
yamin
|
2010/02/28 11:17
|
| |
|
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|
yamin
|
2010/02/25 22:04
|
| |
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|
yesai
|
2010/02/27 13:35
|
| |
|
|
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Naurel
|
2010/02/17 19:45
|
| |
|
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|
yesai
|
2010/02/19 10:46
|
| |
|
|
|
Vav
|
2010/02/13 13:22
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/02/15 12:36
|
| |
|
|
|
Vav
|
2010/02/16 12:25
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/02/03 14:19
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2010/02/03 21:40
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/02/03 22:46
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/02/04 11:37
|
| |
|
|
|
Naurel
|
2010/01/28 18:13
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/01/30 09:59
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/30 15:52
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/22 05:56
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2010/01/22 09:01
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/23 00:50
|
| |
|
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|
Yellow
|
2010/01/23 11:35
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/23 11:55
|
| |
|
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|
yesai
|
2010/01/23 22:45
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/27 13:11
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/23 23:20
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril Ahka
|
2010/01/22 21:40
|
| |
|
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|
Anji
|
2010/01/20 13:39
|
| |
|
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|
yesai
|
2010/01/20 16:06
|
| |
|
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Anji
|
2010/01/22 12:33
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/20 23:01
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2010/01/18 14:52
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/18 19:51
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2010/01/19 11:07
|
| |
|
|
|
couragejourney
|
2010/01/19 18:44
|
| |
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|
couragejourney
|
2010/01/19 18:49
|
| |
|
|
|
couragejourney
|
2010/01/19 19:15
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/20 11:48
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/01/20 12:06
|
| |
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couragejourney
|
2010/01/20 12:11
|
| |
|
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|
couragejourney
|
2010/01/20 12:17
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/20 12:46
|
| |
|
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couragejourney
|
2010/01/20 16:43
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/19 06:07
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/14 22:18
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/09 16:54
|
| |
|
|
|
Ubermensch
|
2010/01/10 12:23
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/01/11 11:01
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/09 13:42
|
| |
|
|
|
Ubermensch
|
2010/01/10 12:19
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/10 16:05
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/10 16:58
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/06 23:09
|
| |
|
|
|
Ubermensch
|
2010/01/07 08:42
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/07 12:36
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril Ahka
|
2010/01/07 15:06
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/07 19:49
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/08 06:06
|
| |
|
|
|
Ubermensch
|
2010/01/08 11:50
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/01/08 17:14
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/09 00:18
|
| |
|
|
|
Ubermensch
|
2010/01/10 11:56
|
| |
|
|
|
Ubermensch
|
2009/10/29 13:12
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/09 14:49
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/01 11:15
|
| |
|
|
|
Ubermensch
|
2010/01/05 14:23
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2010/01/05 06:33
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/05 22:59
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/01/05 23:25
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2010/01/06 14:00
|
| |
|
|
|
biasedperfection
|
2009/09/26 03:08
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/09/26 21:23
|
| |
|
|
|
biasedperfection
|
2009/09/30 19:48
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/10/01 13:59
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/10/03 11:58
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/10/03 12:14
|
| |
|
|
|
biasedperfection
|
2009/10/09 18:12
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/10/11 11:36
|
| |
|
|
|
biasedperfection
|
2009/10/13 18:48
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/10/13 22:33
|
| |
|
|
|
biasedperfection
|
2010/01/05 21:48
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/31 15:18
|
| |
|
|
|
Magdalene
|
2009/12/31 15:56
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/31 16:56
|
| |
|
|
|
Magdalene
|
2009/12/31 17:43
|
| |
|
|
|
kayo1
|
2010/01/05 04:12
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril Ahka
|
2010/01/01 22:07
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2010/01/04 13:23
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril Ahka
|
2010/01/04 18:43
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/30 13:15
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/30 13:25
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/30 15:30
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/27 14:07
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/12/28 11:59
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/30 13:10
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/27 00:30
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/24 15:08
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/19 01:01
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2009/12/19 09:20
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/19 11:35
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/19 11:49
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/12/21 13:21
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2009/12/22 06:29
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/21 06:00
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/20 19:17
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/19 02:41
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/17 06:32
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/17 06:43
|
| |
|
|
|
Ubermensch
|
2009/12/17 09:17
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2009/12/17 09:29
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/17 05:46
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/17 05:51
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/14 13:36
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/12/15 13:28
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/15 18:46
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2009/12/16 20:19
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/16 21:54
|
| |
|
|
|
Nhashta
|
2009/12/14 15:26
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/14 16:10
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2009/12/14 22:37
|
| |
|
|
|
Nhashta
|
2009/12/15 11:02
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/15 09:47
|
| |
|
 |
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/12 19:32
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/12/12 22:49
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/13 00:24
|
| |
|
|
|
Nhashta
|
2009/12/13 14:02
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/13 15:25
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/12/14 11:41
|
| |
|
|
|
Nhashta
|
2009/12/14 13:27
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/14 13:59
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/13 19:30
|
| |
|
|
|
yamin
|
2009/12/13 23:33
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/12 18:36
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2009/12/10 14:09
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/12/12 13:33
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/08 12:53
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/12/12 12:54
|
| |
|
|
|
nathan
|
2009/12/07 21:49
|
| |
|
|
|
yesai
|
2009/12/12 12:48
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/12 12:47
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/08 13:41
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/07/08 23:16
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/07/13 21:30
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/07/27 18:56
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/08/10 22:59
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/08/13 12:43
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/08/13 14:22
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/08/14 13:27
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/08/22 12:52
|
| |
|
|
|
Nauril
|
2009/08/26 15:40
|
| |
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|
|
sherry1234
|
2009/09/28 07:50
|
| |
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|
|
ccindy1
|
2009/12/07 04:15
|
| |
|
|
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ambrosia
|
2009/12/05 16:57
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/05 12:28
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/05 11:30
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/03 22:49
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/04 15:29
|
| |
|
|
|
Yellow
|
2009/12/04 19:07
|
| |
|
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|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/04 21:03
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/04 21:27
|
| |
|
|
|
ambrosia
|
2009/12/04 03:19
|
| |
|
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|
Yellow
|
2009/12/04 19:30
|
| |
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![Re:Sufism and Nazoreanism](index.php?option=com_fireboard&func=view&&Itemid=27Shalama dear Yesai;
thank you very much for your counsel.
Indeed it\'s not an over-islamic branch of sufism, which is a good fact, as sufis, as many sustain, is previous to Muhammad, being known as the \"Kamal Posh\" previous to their islamic link, as an extended group of oriental pilgrims that wear only a white linen robe (this sounds too nazorean).
I\'ve found that the groups that practice the inner or heart zikr, more influenced by indian and persian sufism, are less preocupied in the demiurguic aspects and moral precepts of Islam, than in the inner revelations of the Pleroma of Archangelic Lights in their hearts.
On the contrary, groups more centered, almost exclusively, in vocal zikr and salat, are profoundly islamic even when they follow the inner path. This is not the case with the ones I met. I hope it will be a nice complement to the nazorean practices from your Book of Hours, that marvelous piece of guided Devotion.
In the meantime, I\'ll be bringing to the O:N:E: another group of translations to spanish, if it could help a little the nazorean spanish community.
In the Light of the Living Ones,
Delio [img size=369]http://www.essenes.net/images/fbfiles/images/Nezami.jpg[/img]){kind=link}
![Re:Prayer](index.php?option=com_fireboard&func=view&&Itemid=27[img size=450]http://enreal.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/open-heart.jpg[/img]
Shalama Nhashta -
I do not believe the heavens will intercede to reverse man\'s folly, to stop the flow of oil, or otherwise interfere in man\'s right to destroy his world. Those who worship money and power will be given the freedom to pursue their unholy ends.
But the world is awakening to greater consciousness and awareness and many are seeing the folly of destroying the ecosystem for short term gains. This awareness and commitment will continue to grow and man will continue to become better and better stewards of this planet. The positive influence of prayer and positive mental projections help this cause, for mind is ever the builder. I do not believe that prayer is causing the divine forces to intervene, but prayer is unleashing the immense power of the human heart and mind to affect change in others and is a good thing.
For those few who are truly connected to the Hidden Living Ones above, prayer deepens their connection and communion and is effective in opening the hearts and minds of those they pray for. It has limited affect in the outer world of man however, for that is another \"world\" unto itself outside of the realm of those who walk in the Call and Answer of Life. But it is very effective amongst those that flow in the Living Stream, and our prayers are of immense benefit to one another. Grace, wisdom, insight, peace -- all of these things are given and received thru prayer. We can be given, thru prayer, insight toward curing our physical ailments (but not miracles that defy science). We can be given insight to relocate before a natural disaster (but not a miracle to save us after we have ignored the warnings to relocate), and so on.
My point is that our prayers should be used to cause change in the realm of the heart, mind and spirit, but not be wasted in trying to change the physical or social-economic world of humankind which is not controlled by the Living Ones except occasionally in a limited way when they have established a Holy Order (Shekinta) on the earth where spiritual culture and economics rules the day within its walls. They do not intervene in worldly and physical matters outside of the walls of their spiritual communities, for this would be as inappropriate as a foreign government trying to control affairs outside of its embassy in a hostile land. This world is indeed hostile to pure innocent goodness, although there is much goodness spread thruout it in varying degrees and there are places where goodness can and does take root and flourish to some degree. So i do not mean to sound pessimistic in this regard.
It is good to participate in the healing of the planet, good to lend our positive thoughts and wishes to the growing tide of awareness that is beginning to sweep over the earth, but we should remain ever cognizant that our true duty, our highest goal, lies elsewhere. It lies in the departure from this solar system, in ascent to purer worlds of light and purity. We are called upon to do good while we are here, while we are awaiting our liberation and para-nirvana.
Until that day and hour, may our hearts and minds be filled with good thoughts and prayers for scattered pearls, for non pearls struggling to make this their planet a better place, and for all sentient beings to suffer less and grow wiser and more compassionate. Prayer is a wonderful and powerful tool, but should be used wisely to affect real change where it matters - in the heart.
Blessings and peace....){kind=link}
 and luminosity (n\'hurah) that illuminates the awakened ones and which further manifests in their pure realm as five colored lights that form the basis and foundation of all lower realities, including our own which is mysteriously woven from a low dull form of these same five lights. The two great forms of the Light and Radiance manifesting in our world in their most weak and feeble expression as sunlight, moonlight, male consciousness and female consciousness, but these are but pale reflections/refractions of the actual true light which is more internal than external - at the core of our being and which waits full disclosure at our parinirvanic rise into realms of Light.
Blessings...){kind=link}
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[size=1]Fravashi by Andrew Gonzales[/size]
Shalamic peace -
[color=#008000]\"Through their brightness and glory the waters run and flow forward from the never-failing springs; through their brightness and glory the plants grow up from the earth, by the never-failing springs; through their brightness and glory the winds blow, driving down the clouds towards the never-failing springs.....\'Through their brightness and glory the sun goes his way; through their brightness and glory the moon goes her way; through their brightness and glory the stars go their way.... the Fravashis of the faithful.\"[/color] - Avesta 13
As in the Avesta, the ancient Nazorean scrolls speak of the Firiavis Angels who preside over the free flowing of the waters and streams of life.
May they be ever with us and near us....){kind=link}
 in the Gnostic collection of hymns, the Qulasta, which reads:
[color=#800080]In the name of the Great Life.
Then, when she (the soul) reacheth the seven mysteries,
Servants of the Seven go out towards her
And come and surround her and question her.
And they said to her \"O soul, whence comest thou?
And whither goest thou?\" She said to them,
\"I come from the Body the name of which is Earth.
And I go toward the good Kimsa\".
They say to her \"Servant of whom, art thou?
Messenger of whom art thou called?\"
She said to them \"I am the servant of the beloved Kimsa
And the envoy of the vast Ether\".
Then they bless her and commend her and say to her,
\"All who know this (pass-) word shall rise
Towards the good Kimsa\".
For they seek to grasp the mystery of the Body
And (so) question her.
And thereupon she ascendeth
Towards the Good Kimsa.
[This is a prayer about the questioning of the soul.][/color]
I find myself appreciating the position taken by Father Thomas Hopko on the Aerial Toll-Houses ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHoIx1PJ9ug[/url]) much more than Vladika Lazar\'s position.
Blessedness and peace and fearlessness in the face of inferior forces....<br><br>Post edited by: yesai, at: 2010/05/18 10:12){kind=link}
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Shalama -
They have been understood as personal beings within the purer forms of the Gnostic Stream since the beginning -- yes! The scrolls seem very clear to me that they speak of Beings who are not only male and female and within a humanlike but divine form, but also beings who are simultaneously archetypes and reservoirs of universal energies, numbers, and abstract realities. I do not discount these accounts as childish or naive...
The more Neo-platonic texts of the Nag do not always give this impression to the extent the more personal Aramaic texts do, but i think it fair to say that it is still discernible there as well.
Much of the material in the texts is not literal of course, but the reality of parent like progenitors of our Pearl soul is everywhere evident in my readings, as is the promise of a personal connection to them and an eventual return to them at the end of our trial and sojourn here in the outer worlds.
Although i would not go quite as far as the Jain position on the existence but remoteness and non attachment of the Gods to our sphere and affairs, I do believe that they are a bit more removed from the day to day activities and conscious of typical humankind than is thought in Christiandom for example. They are reachable, however, with great effort, interior searching, and within the context of a well lived compassionate life. Within the Gnostic Stream they are ever near, in my opinion, to those that perform the seven devotions each and every day.
The Call of Life is expressed and uttered by various emissaries who are able to connect well with the Gods and Goddesses above, giving those who have difficulty with this communication an opportunity to move toward the light with assistance and guidance. Eventually, however, all must make a deep and personal connection with the pure ones above if there is any hope of escaping the endless rounds of rebirth in these lower worlds. As we draw close to them, they draw close to us. They do not give us daily direction on what to eat for dinner, what car to buy, what lottery ticket to get, but they do give direction to the life of anyone who sincerely seeks after it diligently and long enough, giving us a few poignant examples in each incarnation to rediscover them and orientate our lives in a manner than will insure a closer connection in the future. The more we respond to these opportunities, the more often they occur.
Although i have experiences with Truth and \"revelation\" that could be defined as being not particularly personal, those that are the most satisfying and edifying to me tend to be of a very personal nature. In them i am reminded of my origins, of my heavenly family and friends, and of the compassionate kindness that flows so freely down upon all who strive for awakening. I am sure many have the same experiences and treasure them as do i.
Perhaps you are of a different school of thought on these matters?
Blessedness and peace...){kind=link}
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[color=#000080]\"[i]In the Name of the Living Gods. Be the sublime Light glorified![/i] On Habshabba, the first of days, who hath seen that which I have seen? Who saw Yeshu d-Hiya when he went and came to the world? He went thence and came to the world, the earth lay prostrate and was affrighted. He taught, and lovely was his voice! And he lifted it up, in his mouth there was eloquence, eloquence he put into his mouth. He revolutionized and forsook the world; the world he revolutionized and forsook. Spirit Ruha sitteth in lamentation, in lamentation sitteth Ruha; and the Seven sit in consternation. They weep and extend their mourning because their mysteries are disclosed, because disclosed are their mysteries. They will be brought to an end on the great last day. Namrus Ruha feared and trembled, her weapon fell from her shoulder. From her shoulder fell her weapon and her bows from the palm of her hand. Ruha addresseth her sons, her good-for-nothing idle sons. She saith to them: \"Sons, when terror overtaketh your mother, what will you Seven do? When the Strange Being cometh, who will rise to confront him?\" A consuming ray of Light is in Yeshu d-Hiya’s hand; felling them he cometh to the rebels. the Son-of-Life raiseth his voice at departure of the Seven, saying to them: \"I have brought wares to my friends. I brought truthful words to believers. People who buy my wares, their merits wreathe their heads. Twined are their merits, and their horns are exalted on their heads. They will arise and will behold the Place of Light.” [i]Renowned is Life and transcendent, and transcendentally pure the one who went hence.[/i]\"[/color]){kind=link}
 began invoking the Light seven times daily, emissaries were sent (his younger brother the father of Life)to encourage his heart, lead him along, and begin his rapid ascent back to his true Homeland. Even Yeshu, it was said, could not automatically rise thru the encircling spheres because of the weight and taint of darkness that clung to him from his many myriad years wandering the outer worlds, and so the Treasury of Life and other Goddesses purified him 360 times, after which his renewal was perfected. We see this message and pattern shown forth for us in Pistis Sophia\'s 13 repentances as well, each story being a key for us concerning our own awakening. A pattern for us that shows there is an actual process, daily practices, stages of purification, levels of awareness and re-connection that are critical to our escaping the endless round of reincarnation. And this takes me back to my point in my previous post - that the sacred scrolls so dear to Miryai and Mani are essential in keeping us focused on this inward journey back to Paradise. They assist us, inspire us, elucidating pitfalls and blind side roads, even perplex us with their numerous contradictions and occasional naivete and interpolations. We are truly blessed, like few generations before us -- everything has been fragmented and scattered and mingled, but it is available and coming together. It is valuable. Its use in quickening the mind and solving the riddles of life are immense. I am so so grateful to the Living Ones above that they have brought to light so much light from the earth, so much treasure, in our lifetimes. May the rich sources of our Stream continue to percolate up to the surface, may the better ones of our planet continue to rise in influence, may the more noble side of our natures continue to exert itself -- may each of us take the time we need each day to center and ground ourselves so that we may constantly be led ever forward by the Light Mind. may it quicken us, may it lead us, may it illuminate the path before us....<br><br>Post edited by: yesai, at: 2010/02/04 11:38){kind=link}
 of light and eventually inherit the Light Land. He also talked of this astrologically encoded karma as something called the \"destiny\", which he associated with the counterfeit spirit (napsha soul) and the flesh (pagra). I know you studied Islam for a while, and one has to be careful inasmuch as Muslims call most of the souls one form or another of \"Napsha\", whereas in Aramaic napsha is only the lowest darker instinctual one, the worldly personality, one of the three lower influences within us that Mani said the Light Mind segregated off and Yeshu said the Mysterion of Baptism set to the side in the Pistis Sophia:
[color=#800080]\"Now, therefore, he who shall receive the mysteries of the baptisms, then the mystery of them becometh a great, exceedingly violent, wise fire and it burneth up the sins and entereth into the soul secretly and consumeth all the sins which the counterfeiting spirit hath made fast on to it. And when it hath finished purifying all the sins which the counterfeiting spirit (napsha) hath made fast on to the soul, it entereth into the body secretly and pursueth all the pursuers secretly and separateth them off on the side of the portion of the body. For it pursueth the counterfeiting spirit and the destiny and separateth them off from the power (Nishima) and from the soul(ruh) and putteth them on the side of the body(pagra), so that it separateth off the counterfeiting spirit and the destiny(astrological fate) and the body into one portion; the soul and power on the other hand it separateth into another. The mystery of baptism on the contrary remaineth in the midst of the two, continually separating them from one another, so that it maketh them clean and purifieth them, in order that they may not be stained by matter.\"[/color]
Blessings and peaceful thoughts....){kind=link}
 accurately portrayed in gnostic literature. I am also convinced that the fanciful account of the life of Jesus as found in Christian tradition and gospels is only very loosely based on the actual historical Jesus (Yeshu). These inaccurate and imaginative gospels found in the Christian Bible seem to have been made up many years before Philostratus, who died 247AD, made up or wrote his account of Apollonius, and I can only assume that the former influenced the later, although i would concede that oral and written stories about such characters as Apollonius certainly influenced the 80 or so myriad writers of the Christian Gospels as they created their \"Jesus\" out of Roman and Greek legends, hearsay, and fragments of the old testament.
Yeshu, or Yeshua Bar Miriam, was a real historical character. The literal son of Yoseph and Miriam, raised within the vegetarian mystical Nazorean sect centered on Mt. Carmel but spread thruout Palestine and Syria.
Like Apollonius after him, there are traditions (Cayce for one) that place Yeshu in the east, in India and Tibet. But these lands and their religions were not the source of Yeshu\'s teachings, nor of his apostle Mani who very definitely traveled there in his day.
Yeshu\'s Nazorean sect, and Yeshu, practiced astrology, numerology, talisman making, esp, sun adoration, vegetarianism, simplicity of lifestyle, and many other pythagorean like practices portrayed in the account of Apollonius, but they were not Pythagoreans, only joint heirs to a more ancient common heritage shared by both, as well as the vegetarian Magussaeans of Asia Minor.
I would mention that the neo-pythagorean school of Apollonius did not particularly like the gnostic schools, especially the more Essene like ones like the Nazoreans. 3rd century Neoplatonists like Plotinus, Porphyry and Amelius all attacked them in their writings. Gnostic groups like the Salome honoring Egyptian Carpocratians who had statues to Plato, Pythagoras and Jesus are not reported to have had one of Apollonius. Perhaps if he had lived earlier they would have, but i doubt it. I for one will not be setting up any statues of him either, or padding my pillow with his biography, although he seems a noble enough character from what one reads. Yeshu, however, and the other great saints, messengers and prophets of the Great Life should always be honored in my opinion, and I would include Pythagoras and his wife Theano in this group.
Blessings and peace....
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Shalama (Serenity & Harmony)-
I took a look at the site you referenced Yamin, http://biblefacts.org/history/mani.html, and found it misrepresents the system of Mani on several points. It uses ancient slander and hearsay used by anti-manichaean Christians that contradicts the teachings found in authentic Manichean literature. There is a lot of false and misleading propaganda in the heresiologists.
Manichaeans did not worship an evil god, nor did they believe that Jesus came to reconcile man to Satan, the dark god. They taught the exact opposite of this. They taught man had free will and they taught a married person, as a perfect listener, could escape the rounds of reincarnation and go directly to the light land. The rest of the highlighted beliefs are accurate enough, as are the notes except for the one that mentions total rejection of baptism. Although Manichaeans did not require baptism of their lower order, in order to enter the middle grade of their system they did employ baptism. The Manichaean hymnscroll also mentions a purifying immersion for the lower Listener level as well but it does not seem to have been mandatory for membership.
I would also mention that some passages in Manichaean psalms and writings do speak of Yeshu having flesh and suffering on the cross, while others accentuate his trans-physical nature. His Christian critics did not seem to grasp Mani\'s Trikaya doctrine which teaches that a Buddha-Messiah\'s body is simultaneously both physical (nirmanakaya), spiritual(sambhogakaya), and all pervasive and universal(dharmakaya).
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The entire text is available here on this website (http://www.essenes.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=12&id=207&Itemid=789) if you are interested. It is a fascinating account of a truly great prophet and prophetess, much more rich and detailed than the sparse New Testament account of John.
As for being seriously studied, it is always a mystery to me how easily academia discounts or ignores the really good material that exists. I understand that this is mostly due to inherent bias among Bible believing scholars, not so much that they are afraid to study it because of their Christian roots, for many have studied themselves out of such quagmires, but more so because of the inherited cultural legacy and group mindset that prohibits serious inquiry into gnosticism. These texts have been available for centuries with little or no work done on them. The momentum has been behind other branches of study with a life of their own, a life that ignores these very relevant writings in favor of fabrications given authenticity by the mere fact that millions have accepted their superstitions and rumors as gospel truth. Anyway, check out the scroll if you have time and interest, it is a good one in my view.
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Shalama Yamin -
Your post brought to remembrance a couple of passages of Yeshu said to have been in the original and now lost Gospel of the Nazoreans:
[color=#FF0000]\"When Salome inquired when the things concerning which she asked should be known, the Lord said: When ye have trampled on the garment of shame, and when the two become one and the male with the female is neither male nor female.\"[/color][Gospel of Nazoreans according to Clem. Alex. Strom. Iii. 13. 92, also Thomas 37]
[color=#FF0000]\"For the Lord himself being asked by some one when his kingdom should come, said: When the two shall be one, and the outside (that which is without) as the inside (that which is within), and the male with the female neither male nor female.\" [/color][Gospel of Nazoreans according to Second Epistle Of Clement, also Thomas 22]
It also reminds me of the Coptic Summary of the Myth, which speaks of Sophia overcoming the darkness:
[color=#008000]\"1. When the Holy Spirit came, he revealed to us the path of Truth, he taught us that two Natures exist, that of the Light and that of the Darkness, separate from one another since the beginning. While the Kingdom of the Light exists in five Greatnesses, namely the Father and His twelve Aeons, and the Aeons of the Aeons, the Living Air, the Land of Light, with the great Spirit breathing in them (and) nourishing them with His Light the Kingdom of Darkness exists in five storehouses, namely the Smoke and Fire and Wind and Water and Darkness, their Counsel creeping in them, moving them, and inciting them to make war on one another.
2. Now then, as they were warring on each other, they dared to make a raid on the Land of Light, thinking in themselves that they would be able to conquer it. But they do not know that what they have thought against it they will bring down upon themselves.
3. There was a host of Angels in the Land of Light, having the power to come out to \'subdue the Enemy of the Father, who was pleased that He should send Himself through His Word to subdue Rebels who desired to raise themselves over the one higher than they. Like a shepherd who shall see a lion coming to destroy his sheepfold: for he plays a trick and takes a lamb and sets it as a decoy that he may catch it thereby, for by means of a single lamb he saves his sheepfold, (and) afterward he heals the lamb that has been wounded by the lion. The same is the method of the Father, who has sent His strong Son, and he in turn produced from himself his Maiden furnished with live powers she might give fight against the five abysses of the Darkness.
4. When the Watcher had stood up in the boundaries of the Light, he showed them his Maiden who is his Soul; they moved themselves in their abyss wishing to lift themselves upon her, they opened their mouth desiring to swallow her. He controlled
her power, He spread her over them like nets over fishes, she made her rain down upon them like purified clouds of water; she thrust herself into them like a piercing lightning, she crept within them and bound them all unawares. When the First Man had finished his war the Father sent His second Son; he came and gave a hand to his brother out of the Abyss.
5. He established this whole universe out of the mixture of the Light and the Darkness that had occurred. He spread out all the Powers of the Abyss to ten heavens and eight earth’s, he enclosed them in this universe together; he made it both a prison for all the Powers of the Darkness, while it is also a place of purifying for the Soul that had plunged into them. The Sun and the Moon were established, were placed on high, so that they might purify the Soul; the refined part they daily carry up on high, while they sweep out the dregs . . . mixed,they convey above and below.
6. This whole universe standing firm for a while as a great Building is being built outside this universe. In the hour that that Builder shall finish, the universe shall be all dissolved and set on fire, so that it may k smelted away. All life, the remnant of the Light which is in every place, he will gather to himself and fashion of it a Statue; while as for the Counsel of Death, the whole Darkness, he shall gather it in and make it into a picture of its own self, it and the slaves of the Ruler.
7. The Living Spirit comes in a moment; . . . he will give hand to the Light, but the Counsel of Death and the Darkness he will confine in the storehouse that was established for it, for it shall be bound therein for ever. There is no means of binding the Enemy save this means, for he shall not be received to the Light because he is a stranger to it, nor again can they leave him in his land of Darkness, lest he should wage a (new) war greater than the first. A new Aeon will be built instead of this universe, which shall dissolve that the Powers of Light may reign within it, because they have done, have fulfilled, the Father\'s whole will, they have subdued the Hated One, they have trampled on him for ever.
8. This is Mani\'s Knowledge let us worship him and bless him. Hail to everyone who shall trust in him, for he is the one who shall live with all the Righteous [/color](MP. 9 : 2 11: 23).
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Yeshu was kind enough to leave us a roadmap, a 33 leveled scale, to measure ourselves by. These 33 grades or degrees are depicted in the Pistis Sophia as heavens and as Razia, or Mystery Rites that initiate and endow and empower.
Each of us operate on many levels simultaneously or sequentially, sometimes from lower urges and instincts, sometimes from higher. More advanced beings are more consistent in operating from their higher motivational centers, and act appropriately from many different levels according to the needs of the moment. Their acts, thoughts and feelings are balanced, harmonious, and non contradictory. Humanity oft act in opposition to their higher selves and their own best interests, as everyone knows.
As we progress in wisdom and compassion and grace we act more consistently, more uniformly, and we wisely remove ourselves from situations that demand very basic and preservational responses.
Outer Initiation, such as reception of the Razia depicted in the Pistis Sophia codex, can be very helpful in deepening our endowment and ability to understand gnosis and act with compassion, but these assistants are not easily available in our day and age. Therefore most must settle for the next best thing, which is first hand experiential experiences and personal spiritual visions, revelations, etc. This approach usually leads to many graces but also some degree of self deception and illusion, and so one walking this path must do all in their power to balance themselves thru interacting with others, even over the net, and thru constant research and analysis of their experiences thru the lens of the sacred scrolls. One must stay open to constant correction from inner and outside sources.
It is hard, even impossible in some instances, to adequately judge ones level of initiation and endowment on the more subtle and higher levels, and even harder for someone else to do so. The Razia automatically do it to a degree, since they demand changes of behavior that coincide with certain levels. An example would be that of a person entering the 13th degree where all personal possessions are relinquished when one joins a monastery. Few, especially from affluent first world societies, are able to do such a thing, even tho they may think they can in their mind. Another example would be the first degrees demand that one be an ethical vegan. This is easy to verify - either you have lived without ingesting or wearing animal products for the last year, or you have not. Very simple, very cut and dry. 2nd degree is daily prayer, third is weekly fasting. This are easily understood milestones.
Someone may be covertly on a very high level, at least in many facets of their lives, and if so they will be measured on departure from their flesh by the Virgin of Light who knoweth men\'s hearts. Someone who has a lot of money may indeed be master of the 13th degree with the ability to remain undetached to that wealth, and even give it up in a heartbeat with no qualms, but without experiencing a community of common goods they will never know for sure, nor will they ever be able to fine tune this virtue along with a host of others. Thus the need for a functioning Nazorean community, which we don\'t have, remains critical for those wishing to excel int eh higher virtues and degrees. Such is not necessary however to begin living the basic foundational laws such as veganism, daily devotion, and weekly fasting/feasting.
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Shalama -
Absolutely all religious sagas are meaningless unless they can be applied to our own immediate circumstances. They are ultimately our own personal histories, the history of our souls journey down into time and matter and up again, as well as this lifetimes format for descent and ascent from the \"old man\" into the new man, or \"old woman\" transformed into the new. The blueprint to refine our character, purge our dross, and return to our true nature. We must learn to apply them within if they are to have any real meaning in our lives.
In my understanding these sagas do pertain also to the history of the spiritual race we are a part of, the race of the Primal Man or Living Soul as Mani designated it, and also to the historical unfolding and upfolding of the various realms of reality and existence, since all these phenomenon are ultimately dependent on the universal patterns and archetypes that lie at the source of all things. That source being the Wellspring and the Palmtree, the Father and Mother of Light and Life.
In the teachings of great messengers like the Living Mani, in his Kephalaia for example, the history of our physical realm is a very short piece of a much greater account, 90% of which happens before and after the billion plus period of this physical universe. Continual exposure to these sagas creates a more drawn out view of time and reality, and creates a perspective that views physical incarnation, especially one single life, as an almost insignificant event in a very much greater drama. Yet these teachings also focus on how this one pivotal point in time can be used to alter millions of years of future existence if we are wise enough to use it to its full potential. Here is a quote expressing some of the teachings of Mani on this subject:
[color=#800080]\"You, the wise people, will see and observe clearly: Who has been the maker of the greater and the smaller worlds? For what reasons were these created in the time of creation? You must know clearly the two principles of diminution and increase. All the shapes and races which have feeling (i.e. have life), Successes and failures, and the Jina settlement of the world-- All things such as these are things of mystery; And whither will the myriad creatures ultimately return?
All these the beneficent Mani has revealed and expounded, Telling manifestly all about natures and forms;And you, men who seek after emancipation,
Must understand and reflect truly. Give alms, practice fasting, read and study industriously,
Discriminate with your wisdom, and accept the pure commandments, Be merciful, fear, and follow good rules and manners: Thus, relying on these forces, you are spared calamity. Leap with joy, and stand firm by the Right Law, Cultivate industriously your wisdom and kindness and abide by the Law,
Give up altogether all bad rules and manners,
And decide to rest your minds in the place of emancipation. Better now freely, for the sake of nature, Be able to part with all the habits of passion and desire; Otherwise when the day of impermanence will suddenly come to oppress you,
What can help you if you regret and repent at the last moment? Think carefully of all things which happen in the world: None of them is reliable and trustworthy, Relatives, sons and daughters, wife and concubine Do not take your place\' on the day of impermanence. There are only two things, good and evil deeds, Which follow your Buddha-nature wherever you go or sit...\" [/color] - Manichaean Chinese Hymnscroll
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![Ouroboros](index.php?option=com_fireboard&func=view&&Itemid=27Yesai, After talking over the forum recently about the Wars of the ancients, the destruction of previous worlds and the recreation of these, the knowledge of which has been preserved in most ancient indigenous cultures you send me this first picture of the Datepalm in a PM. I suppose you know that this symbol is at the heart of this very same subject. Not the Date palm so much as the serpent or snake which devourer it\'s own tail. It\'s name is Ouroboros. This creature actually has many names and is referred to in what we now call legends. Most cultures talk of the Sky God Serpent that snaked through the heavens and hit with force on earth killing a major portion of the population. These are explained in a link which I will include below. The Gnostic interpretation has to do with the connection between God and relating of esoteric knowledge to his progeny through the divine revelations of gnosis.
Symbolism is highly important because it was really the first of written languages and could be shared across cultures. I added a Native American symbol of the snake, from the site, to help us all realize that the story is a global one. I seems that highly advanced cultures existed on our planet some thousands of years before mainstream science would have us believe. During the last cataclysm much of the written records of these peoples were lost but all of us seem to have shards of regressed memories of past lives when we were affected by this world wide event. Other highly placed people know of this and that is why they named their space shuttles Columbia,Endeavors,Discovery and Atlantis. Perhaps you dream, Like I do, of Tidal waves or you may dream of fires, lava earthquakes. This is a subject in need of more study because if we are to \"resurrect in this life\" we must face our fears from this life or any of those previous incarnations in order to end the Karmic cycle. In search of the ends, we, like the snake look for our beginnings and take a bite!
Shalama, Yellow
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Shalama/peace -
The Order does revere and worship \"One Almighty God\", a Father and Mother of Light and Life, who are above all and beyond all\", but it also worships and reveres manifestations, expressions and emanations of this Living Father-Mother in the form of other Gods and Goddesses who exist in the Light Worlds above and who have been instrumental in establishing these learning worlds and of incarnating from time to time to lead the seed of light back to their origins, among these being Yeshu, Mariam, Miryai, Mani, and others. All acting in the name of and under the guidance of the Father and Mother of Light above.
As a Gnostic Order, we do not feel the need to characterize our worship as monotheistic like Jews, Christians and Muslims. The Gnostic Stream has always been comfortable recognizing numerous female as well as male deities inhabiting the Light Land above.
In essence, yes, the Order agrees with the principles of the text you have quoted, but in regards to the authenticity of the text published by G. J. R. Ouseley as \"The Gospel of the Holy Twelve\" in the late nineteenth century, re-issued with the name \"The Humane Gospel of Jesus.\" and “The Nazorean Gospel” we would point out that in some editions there were claims that it was a translation of an ancient text found in a Tibet monastery, but some early ones have a preface that explains its real origins as a channeled work, which in and of itself is not a problem per sea, but this does mandate its acceptance in the Order as a secondary or tertiary text rather than a primary source document. In an \"Explanatory Preface” From An Early Twentieth Century Edition Published In London we have:
“Their \"Gospel of the Holy Twelve\" was communicated to the Editors, in numerous fragments at different times, by Emmanuel Swedenborg, Anna Kingsford, Edward Maitland, and a priest of the former century, giving his name as Placidus, of the Franciscan Order, afterwards a Carmelite. By them it was translated from the original, and given to the Editors in the flesh, to be supplemented in their proper places, where indicated, from the \"Four Gospels\" (A. V.) revised where necessary by the same. To this explanation, the Editors cannot add, nor from it take away. By the Divine Spirit was the Gospel communicated to the four above mentioned, and by them translated, and given to the writers; not in séance rooms (where too often resort the idle, the frivolous and the curious, attracting spirits similar to themselves, rather than the good), but \"in dreams and visions of the night,\" and by direct guidance, has God instructed them by chosen instruments; and now they give it to the world, that some may be wiser unto Salvation, while those who reject it, remain in their blindness, till they will to see.\" \"Explanatory Preface”
As a rule, I am impressed by this work of Ouseley, and it has many good teachings on vegetarianism, woman, and so on, but it appears to me to be Ouseley\'s reworking and revision of the New Testament (as the preface claims) with additions made by him from various texts available at the time of its writing, like the Pistis Sophia and the fragments of the Nazorean Gospel preserved by the heresiologists, and so on. It has no original sayings nor a strong enough gnostic bent that could qualify it as an original document from the Nazoreans as some have claimed, and it does contain harmless but not accurate legends and pseudo-history from the contrived New Testament which the Order does not accept as authentic. All these qualify it as a useful but not profound source of the gnosis, inspirational but not historical in character.
There are a few other older channeled works which I associate and classify with The Gospel of the Holy Twelve, and one new one. Most of these erroneously claim a historical document is behind their text. They are:
The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ by Nicolas Notovitch
The Essene Gospel of Peace by Edmund Bordeaux Szekeley
The Aquarian Gospel, by Levi H. Dowling
The Mystical Life of Jesus by H. Spencer Lewis
The Archko volume, by W.D.Mahan
The Crucifixion Of Jesus, By An Eyewitness, published in 1880.
Confessions of Pilate by B. Shehadi, in New South Wales, in 1893
The Letter Of Benan, by Ernst Edler von der Planitz,, 1910
The Twenty-Ninth Chapter Of Acts, published in London in 1871
The Letter Of Jesus Christ, a 1917 anonymous writing
Letters of Pontius Pilate, published in 1928 by W. P. Crozier.
The Gnostic Gospel of Saint Bartholomew appeared in May of 2005
Two others are of more import:
Gospel of Judas, first translated in 2006 and the
Ghazali Sayings by Shaykh Ahmad Darwish -- both tainted but both containing original valuable sayings of Yeshu from the first century. Of course the Order has other source documents considered more important and more accurate than those listed above.
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 This is what Mani called the Church of the Listener or Hearer. It composes all parts of the Order below the monastic level (whose 12 \"Elect\" levels are those of the First Mystery). The first three of these 12 are the Mystery (rite) of mystical gnostic baptism and its associated vow of veganism and no harm. The second is the mystery (the \"razia\") of anointing and daily devotional prayer; the third is the mystery of the pihta and water and the vow of fasting each week and so on. There are 30 additional razia mystery rites and vows above these foundational three.
The emphasis of the Order in the world and on the net is to promote the principles and practices of the bottom five mysteries or rites -- the foundational pillars of the Order, but we also have the mandate to discuss and teach those interested concerning the other levels and rites as well.
There is no evil in seeking to return to the divine purity and status we once held in the Bridal Chamber before our descent and entanglement in these darkened worlds of the mixture. Gaining Gnosis, or Naziruta as it was once called, is the prime Opus Dei of a Gnostic. We are called to seek the mysteries, to seek our origins, to understand creation, and to flee the inferior and ignorance. There is no harm in this, only good. It was not the Good God who told Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of gnosis, but a jealous inferior being who was afraid that they would discover their true origins and abandon him for their truer selves. Yeshu-Ziwa taught Adam the Living Gnosis and bade him eat it all the day long.
With blessings....
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Gnosis is an inward journey toward the Hidden Living Ones and their seed within us, and seeking after such should be a life long quest for those who have heard the Call. It is a personal journey but it is also, to varying degrees, a quest undertaken with fellow practitioners and adherents of the ancient Gnosis.
As the progeny of the Gods and Goddesses above stumble along here on earth seeking after greater truth and light, the heavens reward us with understandings, signs and encouragements along the way, and from time to time they organize an Order on the earth to assist Their struggling children. These Orders exist in various stages of completion, depending on the needs and energy put into them by those who have heard the Call.
True Gnostic Orders come and go, and seldom last more than a few centuries each time they are restored. Restoration is a constant theme in the history of Gnosticism and at any given time a searching soul may discover an Order in full or only partial restoration, or even one in decline. There are also many counterfeit orders using the language of a true order but teaching something quite different. So a gnostic needs to be alert, questioning, probing, and constantly evaluating their association with others and with organized bodies.
The character of a true Order is found in their teachings, their fruit as you have said, their ideals and principles that she promotes. Its true nature is not in its claims, its titles, nor necessarily in the articulation or charisma of its members or officers. This is especially true of public forums such as this where almost anyone can post all kinds of nonsense or profound truth.
The ideal for a true gnostic in my view, in such a setting as this, is to speak honestly, to be authentic and speak from the heart, share gnosis and experiences accumulated along the way without pretense, claims, or cloaking behind titles or degrees, and be of help wherever and whenever possible. When assisting others in the Priesthood and other Order business I do have other titles, but here on this forum my title is friend, helper, fellow seeker, sharer of gnosis and moderator.
It is my hope and prayer that I might be of some little help here in encouraging others to be true to their own awakening spiritual impulses, and I encourage all others to try to do likewise. Together we can support each other and ease the burden one can experience when trying to discover and live the gnosis all on their own. If we encourage wisdom and compassion and gnosis within everyone we will be well on our way toward finding our way back home.
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Shalama Nauril -
I love your questions, and they are not at all basic, so thank you for posting them.
In ancient Nazoreanism, Ptahil was seen as the crystalizer into solidity of the physical world, but not the real architect of the world.
[color=#008000]\"Ptahil made the earth solid with the sky wonderfully stretched over it.\" [/color]- Secret Teachings
Abathur was his father, and he is sometimes spoken of in very positive terms and as an eventual candidate for salvation. He is also portrayed as a fallen being (as are Hibil, Yushamin and Abathur at times), and in his fallen state he is on the same level as Ruha (Also spoken of positively and negatively). Ruha is usually associated with the 12 signs and seven planets thru her son Ur, so I see Ptahil and Ruha as the Matriarch and Patriarch of the physical universe, with its planets and their influences, infusion and confusion of good and evil, etc. Here is a quote from the Secret teachings on Ptahil\'s responsibility for the planetary influence of folly:
[color=#008000]\"We travelled and went forth, and arrived at Ptahil-Uthra. With our arrival to Ptahil-Uthra he became full of pity and spoke: If it please you, Manda d-Hiya, may my father send good thoughts rapidly to me, so that the thick clouds of the darkness may be taken from me. Day by day it creates commotion and malice in the mind. Wrongly and with no […] my father is angry with me. We spoke to him: More chosen, to them are transmitted Life and a throne was established in places of the light. We establish illumination, which leads up to glory in the Light Land. He, Ptahil, speaks to them: If the young are missing, what can I do for them? If the planets throw obstructions before them, then I am wrapped in the dark clouds of the darkness. Turn to me, as the Great Ones who are over me are cross with me, who will intend before that great one of mine? Then answered Manda d-Hiya to Ptahil-Uthra and spoke: Because you as a warden have allowed the young novices to be dragged to the accounting, because of the rage, the anger and the passion of the planets. You have given over to them the younger that they offend themselves in clouding sin. They release lust and passion on them and cast them into the underworld. They make the children of the world drunk, and this warden then in the world held back. If the planets sin against the little ones, then will such take place by means of your foolishness O Ptahil. If the young then sin, then will such, Ptahil, take place by means of your foolishness. Thereupon spoke Manda d-Hiya to Ptahil Uthra, and addressed him.\"[/color]
As the world he rules, Ptahil is of mixed nature, good and bad. He will have opportunity to become purified and ascend on high, even as Hibil(Primal Man/Yeshu) was purified from his darkness by Simat Hiya, as Zahriel (Miryai) was uplifted, and as Yushamin\'s repentance was accepted after his fight with the light. In the Memphite theology of Egypt, Ptah was the primal creator, the first of all the gods, creator of the world. Ptahil made material the ethereal universe, but he had lots of help as evidenced by this piece from the Secret Teachings:
[color=#008000]\"When Sihlun said this, Ptahil approached and spoke to him: I want to form the crystallization, and Ayar be over it.I want the black water to dig away, and Hibil form an outlet for it.I want to form the earth, and we want to bring the Robe from Ur.Hibil and Sitil may stretch the tent roof.There Sihlun became fully angered, struck Ptahil and spoke to him: You are a evil doer, son of a evil doer, whose quality does not want to assume the Life.Who are you among the Uthras and the men that you want to create the world?When Sihlun spoke in such a way, Ptahil jumped into the black water.The black water Ptahil shoveled away, and Hibil and Sitil created a lowering for the water.Ptahil shoveled and the earth of Tibil came together, as if water had never been over it.Ayar struck with his wings, and as Sihlun still stood there, the dry land appeared there.Ptahil carved columns, Hibil stretched the sky, Sithil formed the wheels, and Anush bound it for him and Hibil rapidly established it.Yosmir, Zihrun and Bihrun became master carpenters, they joined the ship and made for it a front and a back part.Hibil created and brought the Flowing Yardna and set it beneath and all around Tibil.He placed a measuring device, measured the water and poured living water into the murky water.When it entered into the murky water, the living water cried and complained.When it entered the murky water, when the living water mixed in the murky water, darkness entered the light.They brought then Yushamin, set him over Tibil and spoke to him: Give us your sons, so that they may circle around in Tibil and illuminate this world.We want to create and erect races, of which you are to take a daily proportion.\"[/color]
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 the Tiamat of Babylonian tale, who with Ruha is the mother of the seven planets and twelve signs that influence the world so heavily. It is the dragon with seven heads, these being the seven planets but also seven ages and beings who preside over them in corruption, each age assigned a planet.
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The Living Stream also uses seven epochs (daria) with instigators and planetary associations, and also has a goodly serpent (Christ) who taught Eve and Adam in the garden (i.e. early phases of human development). Nazoreans, Naassenes, were known as serpent people, or occultists which is what the word meant in those days, as well. But this is a different dragon, or different aspect of the kundalini force arising from the lower spine -- that force which electrifies humankind, causing them to engage in the seven deadly vices and sins in their unredeemed state, but also to exemplify the seven virtues in more refined souls.
Ur and Az(Ruha), the forces of darkness in the world, influence by astrology and by the organizations, governments, and cultural norms created by them, in conjunction with other influences.
On a personal level we are influenced by our bodies, by the foods and drugs we put into them, by others around us, and emotionally by astrological factors that arise as subtle but persistent urges in the flesh, subconscious and lower consciousness(napsha). Influences to our psyches (ruha) are more thru our connections with others and the influence of their presence, words and energies in our life. But these too can be traced to our star chart (ascendant, node and moon aspects and midpoints). Influences to our higher spirit (nishim) are charted by the midheaven in the horoscope, and Ur has little direct power here except when the person lets their Napsha or Ruha rule their life and overrule the Nishim by putting it to sleep.
So there is a good and bad side to all these forces, to the planets, to the serpent, even to astrology. The visible and anciently recognized planets are those that rule over the most worldly of aspects in our lives, and it is these that are so heavily dominant in worldy people who basically function out of their flesh (pagra) and instincts (napsha) only. It is fair to assign these seven planets rulership to Ur even tho spiritual people negate the evil side of their nature by entering into a spiritual lifestyle.
The unseen planets are more subtle in nature, and also have a good and bad side that can manifest according to the choices and level of the person working with them. For instance hades rules secrets, the secret gnosis as well as an unholy affair, poseidon rules spiritual clarity and truth, but also propaganda, and so on. We get to choose the lifestyle and situations that determine whether they will manifest in a positive or negative manner. For instance, if an aspect or midpoint of neptune is inflames in our chart, it will manifest as deception, dishonesty and drugs if we associate with people who indulge in such, but as spiritual visions and insights if we live in a spiritual community or fill our world with only refined behavior and people. So we ultimately get to choose, not while the influence is happening so much, but by the habits, associations, and lifestyles we choose to create for ourselves.
May the darkness within us all be transformed and composted so as to fuel the manifestation of the Light, and may it ever illuminate our path...
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 who seems more linked (twin soul wise) to Yohana the beloved, whom I believe to have been an earlier incarnation of Mani, than to Yeshu. Cayce tells us that Miryai went and lived in the house of Yohana after the Crucifixion, along with Miriam the mother and Yeshu tells us in the Pistis that Yohana and Miryai are his two greatest disciples. It is curious he leaves out Miriam the Mother, apparently because she was either above or below Yohana and Miryai. Considering the Cayce testimony, I would categorize her above them, not as Yeshu\'s disciple but as his twin coworker not altogether alien from the concept that evolved later in Catholicism which sees her (at least partially) as a coworker in salvation with Jesus.
Blessed be the Miriams, blessed be the twin saviors Yeshu and Mani, and blessed be all the elect who serve and emulate them in attempting to save but one other soul on this benighted earth.
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- Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn.
Associations of all the planets can be found in the various religious paths and it is very difficult to isolate one single influence, so in this sense the association is somewhat arbitrary, but not totally so. All religions go thru the seven phases of the seven planets, but come to be known for accentuating one or two single traits of the planets.
Later modern sects with affinity or heavy use of an earlier sects texts are associated with a planet because of their association with the most ancient sect associated with it.
Ancient Nazoreans tended to honor the sun above the other orbs, and Mani made special reference to the Sun and Moon as beneficial. The Pistis also includes venus and jupiter as beneficial. All these things are based on the various natures of the planets within the horoscope. When using them as a sequential system of Qabalistic categorization, it is more useful to ignore special reference to the sun and moon and to instead see them as a sequence, somewhat equal in nature, one unfolding into the next and all based upon the foundation of the previous ones. Here we get into the ancient doctrine of \"Daria\" or Ages, which references the gradual unfolding of religion and gnosis within developing humanity with its various prophets and prophetesses who made a name for themselves within the various phases of unfoldment. These were called Heads of the Age in ancient scrolls. Well known figures from various esoteric paths appreciated by Nazoreans can legitimately be included in this list of heads and Subheads of the seven ages. This system serves to systematize the teachings and categorize the texts.
Here is a piece of ancient Nazorean tradition concerning these things:
[color=#008000]\"Once on a time there was only one religion in the world. All the children of Adam were Mandai. Of these, there were twenty-four \'ulemƒ\', twenty-four learned men, but one wise man, whose name was Dana Nuk, who was greater than them all. They came to him for advice, and he had all the sacred books which Hiwel Ziwa gave to Adam, and knew them by heart, no doubt. Among these books were the Ginza Rabba, the Sidra d Nishmatha, the Drasha d Yahia, the Asfar Malwasha, the Diwan Haran Gawaitha, the Diwan Awathur, the Alf Trisar Shiala, the Diwan Malkutha Ileytha, the Qulast\'a, and the Iniani d Rahmi. The twenty-four learned men had various forms of knowledge, one had knowledge of Shamish, one knowledge of Water, one of Bel, one of Nirigh, and so forth, but the great one, Dana Nuk, he had knowledge of them all. Each planet had especial power over its votaries and those who loved and served it, but Dana Nuk, he had knowledge of them all. He had a room in his house in which he kept the writings which Hiwel Ziwa gave to Adam, and they were piled one upon the other. He always kept this room locked. One day, when he entered this room, he found a book placed above the others. It was in Mandai, but treated of another tariqah! -the Way of Sin. (Sin, the Moon-God.) He said \'No one could have entered this room to which I alone have the key! I will burn this book!\' And he burnt it. Then he went out into the wilderness and sitting there under a tree, he began to think, \'How could that book have got into my room ?\' Then, suddenly, he saw the book before him ! He took it : he tore it into pieces and threw the shreds into the river. He returned to his house, unlocked the door of the room and went in, and he saw the book lying above the other books as before. He said to himself, \'How can such a thing be ?\' and was puzzled. He talked the matter over with the Nas\'urai, saying, \'What can the meaning of this be ? The book appears above the Ginza Rabba! Perhaps, if we were to read it, we might learn something, but it treats of another Way.\' They replied, \'As it lies above the other sacred writings, it must be right. The planets have ordered this thing! It must be lawful !\'
Dana Nuk went back to sleep, and when he awoke, the book was beneath his head! He went to the Nas\'urai and said to them, \'I destroyed this book twice, but here it is ! I found it below my head when I rose from sleep.\' Some of them said, \'This must be from God. The book must be read !\' They took the book and read it, and some of them accepted its Way, they and their women, and delighted in it. From thenceforth, they and their children worshipped the light of the Moon. And there are still those who worship the Moon, and the secrets of the Jews and their magic are of the Moon, and were learnt from that book. Yes,they and their children adored the Moon! After three weeks another book appeared in Dana Nuk\'s room above the other books, and this, too, he gave to the Nas\'urai. It contained the Way of Kiwan, and some of the Nas\'urai and their relatives with them, adopted that Way. In this manner came five more books, so that there were seven in all, and each contained a different Way. Some of the Nas\'urai followed one, and some another. At last, a book appeared above the others which radiated light as it lay there. The heart of Dana Nuk went out to that book, and he read it and believed what was written in it, and saw that it contained the perfection of the knowledge of God. When he read it, his spirit was glad, and all fear left him. God gave him and all who read in it power. So he took this one for his Way.
It happened, after that, that he was in his garden, praying, when he saw a being of light descending from Awathur and it stopped before him. He prostrated himself before the being who said to him: \'Those who have taken the other books, their souls will remain bound to the earth when resurrection comes and they will not rise, or know the way to Awathur. But you will rise, because your book is of Shamish, and Shamish is of God only, and there is no evil influence with him. Those who read that book will understand [all things]. Have you read it to others?\' Dana Nuk replied, \'Only my family and I have read it.\' Then the being said, \'I must take your soul to the World of Light, so that you may understand the truth of matters, and then return to this world to tell others of what you have seen.\' \"[/color]
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Shalama Amphora -
When my pearl-soul entered the womb of my mother, its purity was obscured and its associate souls tainted by the imperfect flesh and emotions of that vessel, and over time those imperfect \"energies\" commingled with my souls, creating the conditions under which i would exist in this earth sphere; and likewise, when my pearl spirit returned to my flesh this morning as i awoke in this world, again it was dulled and lulled into sleep by the onslaught of vibrations existing in concert with my flesh, nephesh and ruha souls. I relived once again the commingling that was in the beginning, when the kings of darkness made war on the land of light, causing the Primal Firstborn Pair to surrender their souls to fragmentation, to corruption, to a mingling of light and dark; to be as leaven to raise up these outer dense worlds and make them a fitting school for their \"limbs\".
I drank a soy latte this morning, and as i sipped it i partook of some particles of dazzling ziwaneh light mingled with its purely material nature, and i took into myself the mixture, the mingling, the sparks mingled with the ash, giving my flesh the task of separating the dross from the ziwaneh, refining but a spark or two so as to return it back to its origins on high -- a few whisps with my prayers and thoughts focused on the Light land, and the bulk with my rainbow robe which i weave (or unravel) day by day by my good thoughts, words and deeds (or imperfect thoughts, words and deeds). Later, when I pick up an ancient scroll, there too there is the mingling -- words of uplifting light mixed with a concepts of impurity interpolated by those who failed to grasp the full grandeur of Naziruta.
So on a personal level the four created worlds are the four energy wheels or centers (chakras) that exist between the highest and the lowest one, and in the universe the four imperfect worlds between the lowest and the highest Lands. Here is a snippet of an ancient explanation of the commingling from the Manichaean school:
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\"Severus on the \"Two Sources
1. At the beginning were Two Principles, Good and Evil, Light and dankness also called Matter. Each of them was uncreated and beginingless, both the Good that is Light, and the Evil that is at the same time Darkness and Matter, and they have nothing in common with one another. The Good is a Tree of Life; it occupies the regions of the East, West and North; the Evil is a Tree of Death (and) it occupies the Southern regions The difference between the Two Principles is as great as between a King and a pig the one lives in the places suited to him, as a royal palace; the other like a pig wallows in the mire, feeds and delights in decay, Or squats like a serpent in its lair. Like him, this pig and this serpent are born of themselves.
2. As for the things which exist perpetually and without beginning, each of them exists of its own nature. That is how the Tree of Life exists, which is there adorned with all its beauties and splendors , which is filled and clad with all its good things, firm and stable in its nature. His Earth contains three regions: that of the North which is outside and below, the East and the West, outside and below and beneath it there is nothing which could be plumbed or taken up by Him in any of these regions, but infinity is outside and below. There is no body outside, around or below infinity, nor in any one of these three regions, but He is of Himself below and outside at the North, the East and the West, and in these three regions nothing surrounds Him or encloses Him. But He is in Himself, of Himself enfolding His fruits in Himself, and the Royalty is in Him. He is not in the Southern region, and that because He is hidden in what is its bosom. God has, in fact, surrounded this place with a wall 1 and this wall is autophyte, that is, self subsisting.
3. His Light and His beauty are not visible, so as not to give occasions for desire to the Evil Tree that is in the South, and lest it be a cause for its excitement, torment and exposure to danger. But He is enclosed in His Glory, and because of His Goodness He gives w) occasion but He is protected by His Justice. And He is in this Glory, in being altogether continuously in the nature of His Greatness in the three regions.
4. Now by its (very) nature the Tree of Death has no life, nor has it any fruits of Goodness on any of its branches. And it is ever in the Southern region, and it too has its own place, namely that which is above it.
5. The Tree of Death is divided into a great num-ber (of branches); war and cruelty are among them;
They are strangers to peace, filled with complete wickedness, and never have good fruits. It is divided against its fruits, and the fruits against the Tree; they are not united with what has borne them, but all produce corruption because of the corruption of their state; they are not subject to what has borne them, but the entire Tree is bad. It 3never does any good, but is divided against itself, and each of its parts corrupts what is near to it.
6. Now these things refer to Matter, to its fruits and its members; but the chance of ascending to the worlds of the Light was given them by their kev6lt. Indeed, these members of the Tree of Death did not know each other and had no idea of each other, for each of them knew nothing more than its own voice and they saw (only) what was before their eyes. When one cried; they heard; they perceived that, and hurled themselves impulsively towards the
sound they knew nothing else They were so excited and impelled, one by the other, as to reach the frontiers of the glorious World of Light.
7. When they saw that admirable and splendid spectacle, which is far superior to their own, they joined together and plotted against the Light in order to mingle with it Because of their madness they did not know that a mighty and strong God dwelt there , thus they tried to rise and to lift themselves because they had never noticed who God was. But because of this blessed. world they threw a frenzied look, and they thought it would become their own.
8. Then all the members of the Tree of Darkness, with its corrupting Matter, rose up and ascended with the many Powers whose number cannot be told. Now these members differed: some indeed had hard bodies and were of infinite size; others, incorporeal and intangible, had a subtle tangibility like the demons and ghostly apparitions. After raising itself, all Matter ascended, with its winds, its tempests, waters, demons, phantoms, its Rulers and Powers all earnestly seeking how they could enter into the Light.
9. Because of the disturbance, roused from the depths against the World of Light and against the holy fruits, it was necessary for a fragment. of the Light to come and mingle with these Wicked Ones, so that by means of the mixing the foes might be captured and there. might he peace for the Good, and that the Nature of the Good might be preserved, this blessed Nature having been saved from the fire of Matter and of the destroying corruption; that on the other hand the Lights be freed from Matter by the Power which had been mingled therein, so that Matter should be destroy-ed and the Tree of Life be God in all and over all.
10. In the World of Light, indeed, there was no burning Fire which could be thrown against the Evil, no sharp Iron existed, there were no drowning Waters nor any other such evil thing. Indeed, all is Light and a noble region and one could not injure (in) it. But there was this problem: that after being dispersed by the fragment detached from the Light, the enemies should stop their rush and be taken by means of the mingling.\"[/color]
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Shalama -
The five chakra system is found in Tibetan Bon and Vajrayana teachings, among others. It is more of a Buddhist arrangement verses the seven fold Hindu model. \"In the Tibetan tradition, only five chakras are recognized as they consider the lower two (muladhara and svadhisthana) as well as the upper two (ajna and sahasrara) to be fused into one chakra apiece\"
\"There are many variations on these concepts in the Sanskrit source texts. In earlier texts there are various systems of chakras and nadis, with varying connections between them. Various traditional sources list 5, 6, 7, or 8 chakras. Over time, one system of 6 or 7 chakras along the body\'s axis became the dominant model, adopted by most schools of yoga. This particular system may have originated in about the 11th century AD, and rapidly became widely popular.\" ( from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra)
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Shalama Nauril -
The first period is when light and darkness were separate, the darkness being int eh south and the light land and all its good inhabitants in the east, west and north.
The second period is after the initial attack of the dark south on the pure north, the time period of the \"Mixture\" when particles of light (ziwaneh) have been seeded in the darkness after the fall of the the Primal man and Woman.
The third last period is when all the light sparks are separated out again and transferred back to the northern light land and all the darkness of matter and they that have embraced it are lumped together and totally separate again from the light.
We are of course in the middle period and our task is clear -- separate off the ziwaneh, alchemically extract it from dark matter thru sacramental vegan feasting and thru calling out the elect from the world and bringing to their remembrance the Gardens of Light from whence we descended, and for priest and priestesses -- the added task of purifying the elect from the taint of the world thru repeated purification rituals, baptisms, prayers, hymns of light, and so on.
We are called to redeem the holy light sparks: those which fell into the abyss when the vessels were shattered at the rape and dismemberment of the Primal Woman and the sparks of the Living Soul, the various facets of the Primal man and Womans spiritual family who were also scattered in the fields of darkness like seed needing fruition. We must redeem and uplift and evolve our own fragment of the Living Soul, collecting our scattered limbs from creation via vegan food and spiritual interaction and exercise, and we must participate in the joint call to collect all the ziwaneh from all creation, helping others find again their lost limbs. In this holy work we become joint saviors with Yeshu, Miryai, Mani and all the Holy Ones.
Blessings...
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, is fed by the darkness within food and relationships, triggered by internal bio-rhythms and astrological progressions and bad habits and associations. Our war is within, with our own compromised self intertwined and entangled with darkness.
And then there are those that arose in the darkness, whose essence originates there, and who feed upon the fragments of light and gain consciousness thereby. These are the Gnostic \"devils\", the most dangerous of which are the most sophisticated and those that are best at blending their dark drives behind apparent good intent. The personified evil of Christianity, the red devil with pitchfork, is a simple archetype of the lower nature unchecked. The greater evils are not much addressed in Christianity, since it is so intertwined with such in the form of institutionalized and lifeless reality which they promote (i.e the little good, the compromised good, that curtails true flights into the mysteries).
Mani, blessed be he, oft talked on the four great wars in heaven, of the initial attack of the dark ones on the gates of light, on the response of the Father and Mother of Life to send the Primal Pair as a sacrifice to appease and put off the encroaching evil. This war repeated it self in each lesser series of worlds, and now it repeats itself in us, in our flesh, as we strive to regain the purity we once knew in the Light Land above.
In the ancient scrolls we are oft faced with divine good beings falling from grace and being forgiven after repentance. Yushamen, the Second Life is one great example, but even Yeshu, as Hibil-Ziwa, is shown to have embraced darkness and then shirked such off and been re purified via ritual and repentance. All the gods and their children, when coming here into this universe, fall and become tainted with evil. It is the nature of the world. It is also the nature of Yeshu to provide the remedy for such (Naziruta). But an all out falling away in the light land before descent into darkness? How can this be? Even the faintest hint of a disposition toward darkness and rebellion above results in immediate descent out of those realms. Pistis Sophia is case in point of this phenomena.
I do not believe evil can flourish in the presence of the Perfect Good Ones. This whole Michael rebellion war in heaven applies if the heaven is not the Bridal Chamber (Hahut), or even Lalut (Attziluth) or Yaburut (Briah) realms, but in the darker and lower \"heavens\" of the Malakut (Yestziric) worlds. Of course these are the main heavens perceived by the outer religions, and the main god forms understood by them, and so their characterization is appropriate on some level. The Gnostic version of this story is best told in the Yushamin chapters of the Secret Teachings I suppose. In short, no war in the highest holiest heaven, just in the lower ones, no rebellion in the Bridal Chamber, but many in the lands below and in our own bodies. No devil archangel, which in Nazoreanism would be an evil Uthrai, but evil gods for sure, and rebelling entities on the rather low level of what the Christians conceive of as archangels. For an archangel to a Christian is not the same as an Uthrai Archangel to a Nazorean. They have no conception of such rarefied pure beings. Even their concept of God is full of anger and vengeance, rewarding blind obedience and vindictively punishing those who question. These two separate worldviews and understandings of divine beings make it hard to equate one with the other, or to agree with them about anything. Everything they say and believe is true on one level, but on another it is most matter of factly false. The rebellion of of Lucifer seems like an archetype of the Christians take on gnosticism who they falsly claim arose as a Simon Magus rebellion against Peter\'s authority (a twisted memory taken from first century times when Simon Magus and Dosithius broke from the main Nazorean current under James and Miryai). Gnostics were not cast out of their church (their earthly heaven) by some Bishop, but arose as a separate organization that even predated Christianity, so their whole worldview, their whole take on celestial and church history, is askew.
Blessed are the pure sweet ones who control their lower drives...
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![Re:The Beginning?](index.php?option=com_fireboard&func=view&&Itemid=27[color=#000080]\"The good speak, take counsel together and say: Who will come, who will tell me, who will set it forth for me, who will give me instruction?
Who will come and who will tell me whether there was originally one king or two.
The good speak and let themselves be instructed.
Two kings were there, two natures were fashioned, a king of this world and a king from outside of the worlds.
The king of this aeon girt on a sword and put on a crown of darkness.
A crown of darkness he put on his head, and took a sword in his right hand.
A sword he took in his right hand; he stands there and slaughters his sons, and his sons slaughter each other.
The king from outside of the worlds set a crown of Light on his head.
A crown of Light he set on his head, and took Truth in his right hand.
Truth in his right hand he took, and stands there and instructs his sons.
He stands there and instructs his sons, and his sons instruct one another.
Who will come, who tell me what was before this?
When the heaven was not yet outspread and stars were not yet counted in it, when the earth was not yet solidified and into the water no condensation had fallen, when sun and moon came not as yet into this world, how was the soul then?
When the soul still sat in the Matrix Bowl, she felt neither hunger nor thirst.
When the soul still sat in the Bowl, she had no pains and no faults.
When the soul still sat in the Bowl, she felt no cold and no heat.
When she still sat in the Bowl, the locks on her forehead were uncurled, and an ether-crown sat on her head.
Her eyes were light-rays, and they gazed on the region of the House of the Living Ones.
Her mouth was of purest perfection, and sang the praise of the King of the Light Land.
From the day when the wicked began to think, evil imagined itself and came forth in him.
He fell into great wrath and ventured a fight with the Light.
The Envoy was sent to tread down the power of the rebels.
They brought living water and into the muddy water they poured it.
They brought light-giving light and into the gloomful darkness they cast it.
They brought the delightsome wind and into the frantic wind cast it.
They brought the living fire and into the consuming fire cast it.
They brought the soul, the pure mind, and into the vain body cast it.
Out of fire and of water was the one heaven spread out.
Out of fire and of water have they made dense the earth on the anvil.
Out of fire and of water fruits, grapes and trees did arise;
Out of fire and of water was imaged the physical Adam-Pagra.
They fashioned the Envoy and they sent him to be head of the generations.
With heavenly voice he called out into the world\'s disquiet.
Adam, who lay there, awoke at the Call of the Envoy.
Adam, who lay there, awoke and went forth to meet the Envoy: Come in peace, O Envoy, Life\'s Messenger, who hast come from the House of my Father.
How firmly is planted the dear beautiful Life everywhere in his region!
But how poorly for me has a stool been set up and my dark form sits on it lamenting.
Thereon the Envoy made answer and spoke to Adam-Pagra: Thy throne has been set up in beauty, O Adam.
As thy form sat here lamenting, all were mindful of thee for thy good and commissioned and sent me to thee.
I am come and will give thee instruction, O Adam, and free thee from this world.
Give ear and hearken and get thee instructed, and mount to the Light Land victorious.
Adam gave ear and had faith.
Hail to him who gives ear after thee and has faith!
Adam received the Truth.
Hail to him who receives the Truth after thee!
Adam looked up full of hope and ascended.
Hail to him who ascends after thee!
Give ear and hearken and let yourselves be instructed, ye perfect, and ascend to Lights region victorious. And Praised be Life.\"[/color][size=1] - Secret Teachings of the Angelic Kings[/size]
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 wanted to break through the fiery waves, to burn the whole world with fire. The noble ruler (Yeshu) changed his garment and appeared before Satan in his power. Then heaven and earth trembled, and Sammaèl plunged into the deep. The true interpreter (Yeshu) as filled with pity because of the Light which the foe had devoured. He had raised it (the Light) up from the deep pit of death to that place of zeal from which it had descended. Honor to you, Son of Greatness, who has liberated your righteous ones. . ... Awake, brethren, you chosen ones, on this day of the salvation of souls, the fourteenth day of the month of Mihr, on which Yeshu, the Son of God, entered Parinirvana. Hearken, all you faithful: When the time for the perfection of the Son of Man had come, all the demons knew it. And the lord of the sinful doctrine ... covered himself in deceit. And the demons took counsel with each other. The twelve thrones above were disturbed. Poison flowed down on the lower creation, upon the sons, and the chalice of death was prepared for him (Yeshu). The Jews, the servants of the most high God, conceived of a deception ... They conspired against the Son of Man. They devised evil; in deception they brought forth false witnesses. Accursed Satan, who had always troubled the apostles, molested the herd of Christ. He turned the treacherous Iscariot into a steed, when the Most Beloved Yeshu trusted the disciples. He (Judas) indicated him to the night-watchman by a kiss on his hand. He delivered the Son of God to the foes. He betrayed Truth. For the sake of a reward that the Jews gave, he offered up his own lord and teacher.” [/color]
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, the ancient Bible of the Nazoreans, we find the Nazorean Book of the Dead and in this book is an account of Sethil giving his life vicariously in the stead of his father Adam who was afraid to die. In later Manichaean accounts Yeshu (Jesus) is referred to as Sethil. This association of Yeshu with Seth is also reported by other ancient sources, giving us a clue to where the initial concept originated. So we have two versions of Yeshu giving his life for others in Gnostic sources -- one before the foundations of the earth were laid in the first great sacrifice of the Primal Man and Woman on the Cross of Light and another in Eden when Sethil gave his life for Adam. Surely the early Nazoreans saw parallels with the death of Yeshu on the Cross and spoke of such things often but it would have been out of character for them, and against traditional Gnostic doctrine, to construe his death as an excuse for his followers to get out of the hard work of enlightenment and purification themselves. Only with the Pauline school and its desire to create shortcuts and watered down versions of Nazoreanism do we see this concept strained to the point it now is in Christiandom. It is true that certain early Gnostic hymns invoke Yeshu as one who dispenses grace and makes up for our own shortcomings, but these invocations are always in the context of completing flawed rituals (razia) being performed by fully observing Nazoreans who are doing all in their power to live a pure and perfect life. It seems congruent with these sources to view Yeshu and Maryam as guides and teachers toward enlightenment, as examples and archetypes, and even as purifiers and dispensers of grace, but never in the sense of making up for our own laziness, weakness, or unwillingness to earn enlightenment ourselves. As in Buddhism, the Nazorean Messiahs save us from ignorance and dispair, but never from our own karma or sins. That is our task which we should be about continuously, taking full advantage of the wonderful tools and programs of enlightenment and soul growth given us by Yeshu and Maryam -- our Guides and archetypes of perfection that beckon us homeward to the Light Land above.
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that Yeshu was very strict never to eat meat or even sit down at a table with meat on it. Peter explains the rational for this by saying that meat eating is the way demons enter human kind and influence them to do evil, some times so subtly that one never knows they are there until ones death. Peter was not even allowed to eat with his disciple Clement who had given up meat until a somewhat lengthy (7 week)time of instruction and initiation had occurred. He explained that if he did this he would loose his ability to teach by the spirit and could be of no use to Clement in the future.
The great 3rd century prophet Mani, who had complete access to all the unedited early manuscripts of Nazoreanism, also said:
\"...sacrifices and eating meat were forbidden by (Christ) to everybody...and that (Christ) has declared to have nothing in common with Abraham, Aaron, Joshua, David and all those who approve of the sacrificing of animals, of causing them pain, of eating meat and other things.\"
We know, from the Clementine Homilies, that Peter was a very strict vegan, and from other passages therein that he never ate with those who were not.
\"I use only bread and olives, and rarely vegetables;\" (Peter)
In Galatians Paul tells us his slanted side of the story which cannot be accurate, claiming Peter was two faced in this:
\"When Peter came to Antioch, I stood against him face-to-face because he had condemned himself: previously he had been regularly eating with Gentiles until associates of James came. Fearing the circumcised ones, he separated from the Gentiles.\"
This accusation of Paul does not stand up to the extensive material we have on Peter in the Clementine. Peter would not have abrogated the most basic commandment of his religion - to avoid demon linked meat. We know all Nazoreans were very strict about this. It is the one outstanding feature mentioned by historians about them:
\"The Nasaraeans...would not offer sacrifice or eat meat. They considered it unlawful to eat meat or make sacrifices with it. ... They claim that these (Bible) Books are fictions, and that none of these (Biblical) customs were instituted by the fathers. This was the difference between the Nasaraeans and the others(Epiphanius, Panarion 1:18)
As for the reports of Paul being a Nazorean ringleader as found in the Book of Acts, his response to this accusation is to deny it, claiming that he worships the same God as the Jews and believes in the Jewish Law and the Prophets:
\"And they cannot prove to you the charges they are now making against me. However, I admit that I worship the God of our fathers as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that agrees with the Law and that is written in the Prophets.\"
Since Paul says he is of a sect that believes in the Jewish Law and God, he cannot have been at this time a Nazorean who were known to reject both - the Jewish God Yahweh and the Jewish Bible. Paul also denied the importance of the vegan diet, setting himself outside the first principle necessary to be a part of Yeshu\'s Nazorean Gate.
Paul condemns other Nazorean practices, as well as those who taught them like James and Peter:
“Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days\" (Colossians 2:16)
So it seems that Paul had a brief association with Nazoreanism, then gradually separated himself and evolved his own \"christian\" religion. He continued to claim some loose links with the Nazoreans, but claimed his own authority to teach his own religion. Historians tell us that the Aramaic speaking followers of James did not accept these claims of his and there are indications that Barnabas, Peter and other Nazorean emissaries in his locales discontinued their fellowship with him. This disdain for Paul continued among the Nazorean branches until at least the late third century when Mani reintroduced Paul as a worthy founder, not of Nazoreanism, but of a different religion called Christianity which Mani honored, despite its flaws and shallowness, along with Zarathustra and Buddha\'s churches.
So Paul was a Christian and the founder of Christianity, even as Yeshu was a vegetarian Nazorean and founder of Nazoreanism, and Mani the founder of Manichaeism. Each movement established on earth for a specific purpose, to appeal to a specific crowd, and to accomplish limited tasks. Mani recognized this and so recognized Paul for what he accomplished. He was not bothered by Paul\'s rejection of so many important truths because he recognized that Paul had a place in the grand scheme of things. Nazoreanism was a religion founded for advanced souls capable of living very dedicated and pure laws. By nature limited to a small fraction of the population. Christianity was founded as an exoteric religion to appeal to the masses (Psychic souls, not Pneumatikoi), to give them a few watered down principles to guide them along, life after life, and to be a small glimmer in a dark world.
There are many good things for Pneumatikoi(Nishimtayya)in the writings of Paul and in the Gospels produced in his Psychic (Ruhayya) movement, but many misleading things as well. So one has to be careful and skeptical of what one reads there, always comparing it to what is found in more authentic sources.
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Shalama -
Paul created a mindset and an attitude for his school, along with a set of seven original epistles, but not a lot of customs, rituals, and rules which developed over time. His school added and expanded his original writings and eventually came up with the four \"gospels\" to tell their version of the life of Christ, not one based on actual eye witness accounts, but more on Roman legend, hearsay, old testament reworkings and wishful thinking. They turned out pretty good, and have been an inspiration to many generations, but they are not historical except for a few poorly preserved quotes taken out of context and placed within artificial frame stories. (For an example of this, see what is left of the Gospel of John when the false frame stories and removed: [url]http://www.essenes.net/naz/EditedJohn.html[/url])
In contrast, the Gospel of Thomas is authentic and at most has been reworked in only a handful of passages. The Aramaic church also did not suffer the same evolution as the Greco-Roman, because their culture, rules, rituals and regulations were all solidly in place before, during, and after Yeshu\'s period. Changes were made by Yohanna, Yeshu, James and other later leaders, but these were all minor alterations and lessenings of ancient purity rules, number of prayers per day, adoption of new scripture into the canon, and so on.
Paul\'s new religion was an amalgamation of the Mysteries in Rome, his own interpretation of fake Jewish Scriptures, and his own take on the meaning of Christ. His goal was the replacement of of the 3 Pillars of Nazoreanism - Peter, James and John, with a fourth pillar - himself. This switch was bolstered up by the Epistles of Paul and Acts wherein Paul is made the champion of the faith and the original disciples are cast in the light of ignorant fisherman filled with doubt, fear and prejudice against outsiders.
Paul preached against the Law of Yeshu (Jesus) and his brother James whom Paul had rejected: \"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law\" (Rom.3:28). He taught that you could do anything you wanted, just so long as you had \"faith\" in being saved by a divine redeemer. Yeshu never taught salvation by faith, nor did his successors James or Miryai. They taught development of character through spiritual service, rituals, discipline, and gaining of gnosis.
Paul says, \"I went up [to Jerusalem] by revelation and communicated unto them that gospel which I preached among the gentiles...\" (Gal.2:2). If this was the same gospel Peter, James, and John were preaching, what need of explaining it to the elders at Jerusalem? This was the Jerusalem Council, which was held in about A. D. 45. There is no indication that Paul\'s new religion found any favor in Jerusalem. He went his own way and started his own religion.
We know from the Letter of Peter to James that the Nazorean\'s refused to share their scriptures with Paul, forcing his school to create their own made up \"New Testament\":
\"And this I know, not as being a prophet, but as already seeing the beginning of this very evil. For some from among the Gentiles have rejected my legal preaching, attaching themselves to certain lawless and trifling preaching of the man who is my enemy. . . Therefore, that no such thing may happen, for this end I have prayed and besought you not to communicate the books of my preaching which I have sent you to any one, whether of our own nation or of another nation, before trial...\"- Letter of Peter to James
We have another source for these events. They are mentioned in an ancient Arabic text which says:
The Romans reigned over them. The Christians used to complain to the Romans about the Judaeans, showed them their own weakness and appealed to their pity. And the Romans did pity them. This used to happen frequently. And the Romans said to the Christians: \"Between us and the Judaeans there is a pact which obliges us not to change their religious laws. But if you would abandon their laws and separate yourselves from them, praying as we do while facing the East, eating the things we eat, and regarding as permissible that which we consider as such, we should help you and make you powerful, and the Judaeans would find no way to harm you, On the contrary, you would be more powerful than they. The Christians answered: \"We will do this.\" And the Romans said: \"Go, fetch your companions, and bring your Book .
The Christians went to their companions, informed them of what had taken place between them and the Romans and said to them: \"Bring the Gospel, and stand up so that we should go to them.\" But these companions said to them: \"You have done ill. We are not permitted to let the Romans pollute the Gospel. In giving a favorable answer to the Romans, you have accordingly departed from the religion. We are therefore no longer permitted to associate with you; on the contrary, we are obliged to declare that there is nothing in common between us and you;\" and they prevented their taking possession of the Gospel or gaining access to it. In consequence a violent quarrel broke out between the two groups.(The Establishment of Proofs . . . by \'Abd al-Jabbar)
Irenaeus was a student of Polycarp, who was supposedly a student of St. John the Apostle (actually John the Elder who probably wrote the Gospel of John.) Irenaeus lived ca. 120-202 C.E. Polycarp had at least one Gnostic student as well, but Irenaeus chose the non Gnostic path and became a bitter opponent of all things Gnostic. He wrote anti-Gnostic writings that drew a clear line of separation between the two schools. Some have said: \"What Irenaeus achieved . . . was not only the intended refutation, but the lasting polarization of Christian fronts\" (Gerard Vallee)
Continued integration with Rome continued until its Emperor Constantine eventually invited 1800 Christian bishops to attend a Council at Nicea. Only about 300 from the Pauline heresy came despite an all expenses paid invitation. Another 1500 or so refused. No true Gnostic bishops attended.
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